lori: so as we approach this battle over spending cuts with regard to the debt ceiling we know that jack lew has been sympathetic, supportive of president and his agenda, supporting entitlements, supporting spending and what not. so what's your take whether or not we'll get meaningful spending cuts with a treasury secretary like jack lew? >> well, i think when you look at jack lew's background and compare him to say tim geithner, the present treasury secretary what you see is a couple things. one, this is a guy who knows capitol hill very well. he has spent a lot of years on the congressional staff. all of it working for democrats. he worked for tip o'neill. he worked for joe moakly. unlike tim geithner who never worked on capitol hill he has a sense how to get deals done in congress. secondly he comes from the liberal wing of the democratic party. i talked to him when i worked on my book about the budget, red ink, last year. he believes in the power of government. he is not going to be very sympatico with people like paul ryan who believe the whole role of the budget exercise is to shri